Tuesday, November 28, 2006

Growth – some ruminations

On to other topics, as I see not many of you were interested in the Modernism versus New Urbanism article. I do recommend, however, reading the 11/27/06 comment about Marianne Cusato’s experience with post-Katrina plans and the audience rising up to oppose a Modernist design being imposed upon them. (Even I concede that when Solomon’s talk was presented as a speech and slide show, my own attention span wore about after about an hour.)

Today, during a briefing from Charlotte-Mecklenburg Schools Superintendent Peter Gorman on his Strategic Plan 2010 (I’ll reserve comment until it’s unveiled tomorrow) I found, deep in my legal pad, notes I apparently scribbled to myself during some other meeting at some other time.

It appears to be observations about planning and growth in Charlotte and this region. Thoughts? Put ’em below.

1. Are city plans worthless?

– The incredible weakness of planning. Plans are timid – rarely push against development in the works.– Worse, city policy – adopted after developer pressure – guts them. The rezoning-changes-the-plan rule. [That refers to the nutso policy of City Council, whereby any vote for a rezoning that doesn’t conform to the adopted plan magically alters the adopted plan so that, voila, the new zoning now becomes part of the plan. It’s a travesty.]

– Council, even staff, frequently won’t support [plans]. (See above.), Plus lack of money for enough staff.

2. Developers– Not monolithic. [I meant there are many developers, and they’re not all alike and don’t all share the same views.]

– Change the rules. If you keep on doing what you’ve always done, etc.

– The lying. [I meant here, that some developers – not all – tell lies, either to neighbors or to elected officials.]

3. No hope for real regional planning without state involvement.

4. State legislature major hypocrite. “Land use is local” excuse. But won’t give localities authority for such land use tools as impact fees, etc.

5. Follow the money. Even if Mark Felt never said it. [Felt was Watergate’s Deep Throat.]

6. Traffic congestion is inevitable. “Congestion is the condition of the city.”

[That’s a quote from architect and planner Andres Duany, one of the founders of the New Urbanist movement. His point: It’s in the nature of cities to be crowded. You can’t cure congestion in a city.]

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

Let me see if I can translate...

1. When we who know better than you, come up with a plan, it should stay that way. Property rights be damned.

2. When you are a developer, planner our journalist such as myself who is a member of CNU then you are not a lier. However, if you disagree with us, then you must be lying, or at best ignorant.

3, 4, 5. If only the state would give us a way to take others' money without it being called taxes. The little people seem to be wizing up to that one.

6. Traffic congestion is inevitable. “Congestion is the condition of the city.” We'd better build the trains before everyone else figures that out.

Uncle Dennis said...

My wife and I like to play a sort of game, saying "If only we had X, THEN we'd be cool." You can substitute anything for X, and you get my meaning.
Issac Asimov, a great science fiction writer wrote a series called The Foundation Trilogy. The story line was that a science was developed to guide the future along certain lines, and the interpretation of trends could successfully manipulate society.
I guess where I am going with this is that there are no absolutes here, no magic policy that will make things right, because as we know, everyone has a different view of what right is.
Rick's comment on property rights is correct, it belongs to the owner. The Arlington is a good example of a property owner being a property owner. I for one, like the exterior of the building, it provides for a recognizable landmark, and is noteworthy (the inside is a different story).
Property owners are also the ones who for the most part raise costs on public projects, land banking until the demand for the land reaches a price they are willing to sell for.
We, all of us, are part of a consumer society. Developers, Newspapers, Stores, and even Government. We are taught that there is a price/value relationship, and we do what we can to positively influence the price. Do we lie, well.....lets say we put some truths in a different light than other truths.
Concerning city vs state, if you think the divide between urban and suburban is bad, look at this farming state vs this metropolitian area.
As to traffic, we are trying to help traffic 20 years from now, something that elected officials 20 years ago didn't do. The mantra here should be "If we don't build it, they will stop coming."!

Anonymous said...

We create laws to better the society...

The problem is enforcement of those laws like most of the laws we create.

Do you want a power plant next to your house? or a mini mart? or a sky scraper? Master plans help avoid these issues.

Follow the Money and you will always find the truth and what really motivated someone to make a decision or support something.

The state needs to allow each city to fund their development any way they feel fit to do. It is a captialist market so if a city wants to charge people impact fees then they should be able too and maybe face less development but then again they may have some of the best schools since they can fund them... Charlotte has lost I know 1 company because of the poor public education.

Traffic is a problem everywhere and there really is no 1 solution. Yes wider roads would help but are you willing to cut into your property to add a lane? or deal with the construction nightmare of adding a lane? What trade offs are you willing to make?

Yes 485 in the south was highly underbuilt but when designed nobody knew of the growth that would happen in that area... It takes people with planning and some foresight to make the right judgements about growth but wait... we don't like plans and planning.... cause we should all be reactionary...

Granted I can't stand how long things take once plans are put into place. If instead of waiting for light rail to be built and started building it when people approved the increase tax and designed it as we went or expanded it as needed then we would be well on the way of proving mass transit works and we could of paid for double what we have today.

The I-77 expansion was the proving ground that we design as we go and getting it done in a reasonable timeframe and within cost.

Anonymous said...

, The mantra here should be "If we don't build it, they will stop coming."!

That might be a good thing. Personally, I want them to stop moving here. Charlotte is turning into a toilet.

Anonymous said...

City ocuncils in the 1980's were anti growth and made sure that roads didn't get widened or expanded under the belief that people would stop coming. They were wrong.

Luckily, some people had the forsight in more recent times. Newer segments of I-485 were built with extra lanes, a third runway and expansions to the Douglas terminals, developers buolding housing stock and the needs of these future residents, and yes, the light rail system, are part of this thinking ahead. This is not 'your father's Charlotte' anymore. Quit kidding yourself otherwise. I for one, think this is a great thing.

Danimal

Anonymous said...

Regional planning is teh stupidest idea I think I have ever heard.

The reason people flock to Union county is to get away from the morons in CharMeck.

What regional planning is REALLY about is this:

1) We screwed up the city
2) All teh rich white people left
3) We need to find a way to cross county lines and steal all their money once again and pump back into our urban cesspool, whilst giving them nothing in return.

We'll call it 'regional planning'.

Uncle Dennis said...

Your blinders are on so tight that you cannot spell THE.

Anonymous said...

You are the one with blinders.

Why on Earth would all the 'producers' in Union/Iredell/Gaston counties pay the way for all the non-producers in Meck?

They tried this once. I was called 'the Soviet Union'.

Central economic planning.

Where are THEY now?

The buttclowns in CharMeck city/county govt do not have 2 brain cells to rub together.

They can't plan for adequate parking at a Bobcats game let alone 'regionally'.

Anonymous said...

I think we folks in Union County should start 'regional' planning.

First, lets raise taxes on anyone living in Mecklenburg county and use the money to build more private soccer fields, some museums, more public schools, and subsidize businesses to move to Union county.

Wouldn't this be for the GREATER GOOD?

I mean, the people in CharMeck would sure benefit if we in Union County had more of their tax money to make UC a nicer place. After all, we NEED it, and thats all that matters.

Again:

1) You spent tons of taxpayer money on toys.
2) Yuor schools went down the toilet, your crime rate soared, you neglected your roads.
3) All the rich white people left.

so....

How do we in CharMeck steal their money???

'Regional' planning.

Uncle Dennis said...

To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, "Well, there you go again!"

Yuor???

Must be special Union County spelling.

1) You spent tons of taxpayer money on toys.
2) Yuor schools went down the toilet, your crime rate soared, you neglected your roads.
3) All the rich white people left.

I hasten to point out that were it not for CharMeck, Union County residents would still be stepping in cow-pies.

Crime has not "soared", and perhaps you have not heard of the rich folks, all colors by the way, living in Dilworth, Eastover, Myers Park, South Park, etc.

Anonymous said...

Crime has soared. Whites have abandoned the entire Independence corridor that once had nice stores, such as Haverty's, the International News Stand, Harris Teeter, Eckerds. Foxfire, etc., used to be nice. Castlewood should be demolished. The blight is moving down Thermal. East Meck has "tipped." So have Rama and McClintock.
I can retire in 15 months. Believe me, it will not be in Mecklenburg County. I have lived in Charlotte for 30 years and the changes have not been for the better. Drugs, welfare, taxation, bad schools and illegals are ruining this city.

Uncle Dennis said...

The Independence corridor changed when it became a highway for the people living out in Union County to get to downtown Charlotte. While not a native of Charlotte, I do rememmber the richness of Independence, though it was extremely congested.

I wish you well in your coming retirement.

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