Tuesday, January 23, 2007

A very very very big box



IKEA’s announcement last week that it’s building a store in Charlotte kicked off a frenzy not equaled since Nordy’s finally opted to come here. I’ve never been to an IKEA, so I’m not in a position to rave about their furniture, though I know lots of other people who do.

But a source at the city planning department says there’s a battle, of sorts, going on over the size of the signs IKEA wants. That’s why it’s requesting a very urban-type of zoning (MUDD-O for those of you who know the lingo). That “-O” is key. It stands for optional, and it means you can get permission for all kinds of things that, without the “-O,” you wouldn’t be allowed to do. Such as have very large signs and very tall signs.

In reality, “battle” isn’t the right word since it sounds as if the planners are going to buckle and allow IKEA its gigantic signs. “We have no leverage,” my source said. The building's architecture is “not negotiable.” According to this source, IKEA's negotiating stance was essentially “take it or leave it.”

I’ve never shopped at IKEA, so maybe it’s such shopping nirvana that it’s worth breaking all the rules for. It does have plenty of fans. But man, that is one ugly building. And at 345,000 square feet, it’s going to be one very huge, very ugly building – roughly twice the size of the 176,000-square-foot Wal-Mart supercenter to which Waxhaw just gave thumbs down. And did I mention that the building is ugly?

“It is not an attractive building,” said my planning source, who clearly hadn’t gotten the memo from on high to praise all things IKEA. (Or maybe said memo was indeed received. You’ll notice I’m not using the planner’s name.) “It’s a blue and yellow big box. Yeucch!”

50 comments:

Anonymous said...

It is not going to be twice the size of Wal-Mart. Walmart is 176K square feet on one floor. IKEA's concept uses two floors the top floor is show rooms and the bottom floor is merchandise 345K / 2 gives it the same footprint as a Super Wal Mart

Anonymous said...

Not to mention everyone knows that Waxhaw's opposition to Wal-Mart had nothing to do with "big-box" stores. It has everything to do with the liberal mindset that Wal-Mart is "evil". IKEA, being European and left-leaning, will never get a peep of opposition.

Anonymous said...

IKEA is one of the most successful companies in the world. They have a model that works. They try to duplicate it as much as possible.

They are not going to risk a proven model by changing their core store design for city planners. IKEA is completely correct in holding to that stance.

If the city of Charlotte wants a dynamic retail environment, they sometimes need to get out of the way of proven winners and just let them operating under their business plan.

Anonymous said...

"Not an attractive building" is how some describe the IKEA building. How would you describe your early 70s piece of SHi* on south tryon?

Advice to most of the folks that blog or write for the Obsurder, learn how to say "Welcome to Wal-Mart" in Spanish, 'cause unless you have old family money to inherit this is your future.

Anonymous said...

I was waiting for Mary to cry foul over how ugly the building is. Yep, they don't have thaqt rustic hippie feel to them, nor do they preserve old buildings, blah, blah, blah. I can't believe she's not ranting about the suburban location or the fact that it's a chain store. Yes, in many ways, IKEA is the 'anti-Newsome' type store. But hey, Mary, once you visit one, all will be forgiven. Practical contemporary furniture, great prices, very progressive employment practices, not to mention the badge of honor it bestows towards Charlotte's quest for metropolitanism. Yep Mary, this is a home run for us, whether you like it or not.

Danimal

Anonymous said...

At least this "very very very big box" is going out in the 'burbs and not around uptown.

Anonymous said...

I love the Ikea Buildings even though I am not a fan of Big Box Stores. The main problem with the most big box stores are the characterless insides. Wait until you see the inside of an Ikea, Mary. It is gorgeous and well designed. Additionally, at least the outside has the striking yellow and blue color scheme.

Uncle Dennis said...

Simmer down, fellas!

IKEA can be helpful even though the building is ugly. There is little doubt that we don't like those hulking empty Big Boxes left by past retailers, but we sure enjoyed them while they were operating and providing jobs here.

IKEA's strength is that is does not seem to be destined to being beaten by its competition, there really is none.

The continued migration of folks to Charlotte seems to indicate that their market will keep renewing itself, and the location near the expanding UNCC campus should also provide a steady stream of new parents helping their kids get set up.

The good news is that IKEA is being built on an island surrounded by I-85, North Tryon, Harris Boulevard, and University City Boulevard. There is NO CHANCE any pedestrian traffic will exist there.

Should IKEA ever abandon it, perhaps CATS could pick it up to be a maintaince facility for light rail as it is near the Tryon Street segment.

UD

GreenInNC said...

I have been to the IKEA's in DC and in Philadelphia and they are nice enough, nothing special. But this is coming from the guy who furnished his entire first apartment for $400.

I do wish they would have put the store on Independence, plenty of space for it.

And to anonymous #2 - What the hell does Waxhaw have to do with this?

Anonymous said...

YES !! Put it on Independence. That road needs a lift. This store would do it. Not all the way out in Mathews either. Put it right outside of uptown. How about the dead lot over by Infinities ?
Build a nice on/off ramp system and it would be great. In town people will be buying the contemporary furniture. Not country suburban folks. They put it right smack downtown in Atlanta. Smart move.

Anonymous said...

IKEA is a great store.
Who cares if the building is a big blue and yellow box?
If only we could have the full compliment of foods and beverage choices...but unfortunately, we won't get the aquivit or schnapps selections. I don't know if any US stores have them.

Anonymous said...

I think the store's blue and yellow exterior pay homage to the store's swedish roots.

My family in OHIO is excited about Ikea and looking forward to coming to Charlotte to see it.

Unknown said...

It's makes you wonder why we have a city planning department. Haven't they learned their lesson with the empty big boxes that we are blessed with in east Charlotte? We continue to repeat our mistakes. Our permitting needs to stop being so permissive and hold firm to some rules on size and location. Again another example of the developers running the city. We should hold fast to our guns, either the size gets within compliance or permit is denied.

Anonymous said...

Heck yeah, Frank Burns, heck yeah.

Anonymous said...

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/entertainment/16494005.htm

Mary, see the above article on the Ikea headquarters and how they are awaiting LEED certification for their North American Service Center here in the US. Not too bad of a company, but i'm sure the architecture of the building would be in question by you.

I grew up where the first Ikea in the US was built, and now the location of a brand new store and the aforementioned service center. The store was a huge boost to the local economy and it provided us with plenty of great things at affordable prices. I furnished my whole college house with their stuff. Oh yeah, this new store which replaced the old one and is as big as the proposed Charlotte store, it's located along an interstate, just off an exit. No one seems to really mind the architecutre there. Nope, they just enjoy the good prices and nice furniture. And i can tell you, this area is more urban and dense than University City, but the big sign and big building work just fine. I know this probably shocks you, but it's true.

Yeah, the building here will be big and blue, but that is their model. It's no different than the typical Best Buy design, or the Wal-Mart, or Home Depot. They all have their models and they do what they can to not vary much from them. It's not like this building is going in Myers Park or Dilworth or something. It's going in a location off an Interstate, which is where this stuff should go. You need to tell your planning source that he shouldn't expect to get your utopian dream of new urbanist development at a highway interchange. I knew it would only be a matter of time until you complained about this Ikea. A good thing locates in the University Area and you have to complain about its architecture. Is there any other fantastic architecture in the University area?? Nothing jumps out at me.

Let's be realistic here, it's a big box, it's an interchange off I-85, it's the best place for something like this. This is why i this blog is such a joke sometimes. Not everything is about design and New Urbanism. But should it fall outside that realm, you choose to rip it apart. I can tell you, if this type of store was coming to my jurisdiction as a planner, the first place i'd like to put it is off the interstate. Then i'd try my best to get them to dress the site up by being creative with their parking and landscaping. You can only dress up a pig so much, so why not keep that pig in an area where they should go, i.e. off the interstate.

I like Ikea, and they are a good overall corporation, as you can see by their new green, soon to be LEED certified building in PA. They are what they are, a big box retailer with a big building footprint, so next time you want to complain, make it worth while. This complaint is nothing more than a whiny, why can't everything be new urbanism, bunch of junk. What's next, complaining that a new industrial building that will employ 400 people doesn't look good and we need to change it. Gimme a break. Ikea will bring new jobs, tax base and new development in the University Area. That alone is a bonus. After that, looks are a distant second in terms of priorities.

Anonymous said...

Thank God IKEA is coming to Charlotte. I am so frustrated with everything in Charlotte being the ugly traditional-type furniture that all the minivan mommies love (and I loathe). Bring on more inexpensive contemporary furniture! I love IKEA furniture and have bought several pieces from the DC store and had them shipped here. I'd rather pay shipping than buy the ugly crap they sell at Ashley, Rooms To Go, etc.

Anonymous said...

Yes !! Bring it on Baby !!!
You are right. Charlotte's taste is for crap. The only halfway decent contemporary stores are ByDesign and EQ3.
Try living here as long as I have. In 1988 you had NO choices. I would vaca in Cali, NY, Seattle and drool over their selection.
Wake up Charlotte and get over the plaid Lazy Boy already.

Anonymous said...

Anon at 9:46 said try living here as long as they have. Well I have, I'm a 40 year old Charlotte native and I feel your pain. Charlotte's taste in furniture is pathetic! I also shop at the stores you mentioned. There are at least some people who are from Charlotte who have good taste in furniture........

Anonymous said...

The fact that we're arguing over the merits of a big box that sells discount chic crap that breaks in 5 or 6 years says it all. In the scheme of things, IKEA is bad for the North Carolina economy. It's not a coincidence that Broyhill and others are closing factories in NC.

As Frank points out, we already have millions of vacant retail square footage accompanied by tens of thousands empty parking spaces. Yet, we need to cut down thousands of trees because IKEA is cool!

I've lived 41 years without an IKEA. I could easily live out the rest of my days without one without sacrificing any quality of life. But, we've got to be COOL and nothing says cool like IKEA. I mean, they're Swedish, Ja!

Anonymous said...

El Absurdo,
I agree on the part about putting IKEA in one of our many empty parking lots. But as far as Broyhill and other NC companies closing I believe it is due to them not supplying a line of furniture that people want. Pilgrim days are long gone.

Anonymous said...

The amount of free publicity these guys generate is unbelievable. I own a small business, maybe I should start breaking the rules and dictating how its going to be to the city planners. Putting my signs all over the place, as big as I want them to be. Maybe that will generate some free publicity for my store. It is amazing to me what people will give away in order to be "cool", just look at the Charlotte Bobscats, the city rolled out the red carpet just to be "cool".

Anonymous said...

To clarify about Broyhill "closing." The Lenoir/Hickory area furniture plants are closing because production is moving overseas, where labor is cheaper. (Perhaps you've heard of this phenomenon?) It really has nothing to do with selection. As for IKEA, why in the heck do people here get so excited about the IKEAs and Crate and Barrels, etc. They're STORES! Just another place to spend lots of money. You can get anything you want online these days.

Anonymous said...

Our "planning dept" is such a joke. I have never lived in a city that is so dominated by developer interests and completely in the pocket of big money. Regular Charlotteans have no say at all in the quest for "World Class" status. GAG

Anonymous said...

Personally I get much more excited by a new hardware store going up near me. Shopping for furniture a few times in a lifetime does not compare to the weekly trips to the hardware and grocery stores. Neither do I care much about what style is in or out. My 20 year old wingback is perfectly comfortably, and my wife loves the black walnut headboard I built her.

That from someone who has lived in Charlotte for 50 years.

For the newcomers, specifically those who moved here of their own accord, I suggest Charlotte had something to offer before IKEA and many of the other recently added commercial amenities. I also strongly suggest the business people who run this town have done too good of a job of maintaining growth at a higher level than the growth of government infrastructure. Thus I see the problem of continued high growth as resulting in a continuation in overcrowded schools and a constantly rising tax rate,etc.

In essence, it seems those who moved here previous to IKEA, yet complain about how mundane Charlotte was previous to, will never be satisfied, and thus one can only wonder if they were thinking when they chose to move here, or not.

Anonymous said...

I love how Mary writes this paper-thin article and has never visited an Ikea store before. Way to have an informed point of view. And why the outcry for this particular retailer? Drive around the Charlotte area and you'll see plenty of unattractive stores including Walmarts, Best Buys, and even Carolina Place mall has never won awards for its beauty.

Bottom line, Ikea brings quality products, more jobs, and even tourism to our area. Personally, my family has man an annual 6 hour drive to visit an Ikea store. This retailer is famed for drawing customers from many hours drives away. With those out-of-towners comes added revenue to restaurants, hotels and other retailers.

I welcome Ikea to our area...I wish they were arriving sooner.

Anonymous said...

The ugly train has left the University station -- it is too late to save that area from the suburban eyesore that it is. I think we should make all of the big box stores locate there -- we can designate it the ugly part of town and we can then concentrate on keeping the rest of Charlotte a somehwat livable place to be.

Anonymous said...

The anon small business owner: Ikea is not "breaking the rules". They are simply exercising their right to decide what they will and will not do. If they insist that their building a retail space is contingent on a specific design and that building would not comply with the rules, they clearly have the right to that contingency. There's nothing even vaguely wrong about a company deciding it's own course. That's all they've done.

And of course if the building they want would violate the rules, it is the responsiblity of the appropriate officals to not issue the relevant permits. If you have a complaint it is with them, not Ikea.

Anonymous said...

to evil twin: all the big box stores already are in uc. At least the inside of this one will be clean!

Anonymous said...

Geez, perhaps the nation's most desired retailer comes to Charlotte and all you can say is, "The building is ugly?"

This is a huge coup for Charlotte. IKEA has been incredibly successful because they obviously offer products people want at a price they are willing to pay.

People in the Charlotte area currently plan trips to Atlanta just to visit IKEA. Ugly building or not, it's a store that a lot of people obviously care about. I, for one, can't wait.

Unknown said...

I will accept the opinion of many on this blog that IKEA is a wonderful store. I've never been to one myself but I can sense the enthusiasm of many writers for IKEA. Like Lewis, I'm not high on shopping either. I'd buy everthing from a catalogue if I could. Still, if the building does not comply with our size standards, the developers of the store need to revise their design to get them into compliance, which may mean reducing the size some. IKEA is not making any promises to remain there for perpetuity and we residents will be stuck with another big box if they leave. I still recommend the planners show some intestinal fortitude and force the developer to reduce the size and get rid of the big signs.

Anonymous said...

Frank, if the city tried to "force the developer to reduce the size and get rid of the big signs," then IKEA wouldn't come here. It's as simple as that - people go to IKEA for the selection and experience. You can't get that in a Reader's Digest version of the store.

Fortunately, the folks running the city apparently understand that zoning rules shouldn't be used as stumbling blocks for economic development.

IKEA wouldn't have made this announcement had they not already cleared this with the city - meaning someone in the city exercised some much-needed common sense and relaxed these rules. Charlotte was built on a "can-do" pro-business attitude - not nit-picking bureaucracy - and it's good to see that spirit still exists.

Anonymous said...

Why pay planners to plan if plans are consistently viewed as "stumbling blocks for growth." Isn't breaking the rules for IKEA a bit like letting the star quarterback play after missing curfew, but suspending the backup linebacker? Why pay planners to make rules (that are passed by elected officials) if they don't mean anything?

Also, I simply do not understand the argument that says there are already plenty of ugly buildings here, so what's one more? One more is just that: one more ugly building.

Anonymous said...

Will the last person to drink the Kool-Aid please remember to wash out the pitcher?

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

ANON 1/25 11/24.
Being anonymous allows one to say things without responsibility. One must appreciate those who identify themselves, but.

To respond to your comments.

I never wrote anything about government allowing growth. Please reread the piece and explain to me what your comment is based on.

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Anonymous said...

Lewis Guignard,
Please ignore these twits. You have always been a sincere and rational contributor to this blog. Even if I disagree with you sometimes, I do respect your opinion and the way to present your POV.

Anonymous said...

Lewis,

Congratulations!!!

You've graduated into being called names by the Newsomites. That's what typically happens when rational arguments run up against their blind zealotry.

Cato said...

Lewis,

I always read your comments with interest, and am consistently impressed by your civility here, which is difficult sometimes (I know, I've had a few lapses myself). Blog on.

Anonymous said...

Dear Anon (1/26 - 1:57PM)

I apologize for hurting your feelings, but I insist, to write, or say, things for which one avoids responsibility by remaining anonymous detracts from the argument. It also allows one to suggest things which one would otherwise not.

Further, my asking you to reread my comments was very legitimate. Here you are in good company. No less than Rolfe Neill, at one time the publisher of The Charlotte Observer misread some of my comments to him, for which he apologized. A true gentlemen, with whom I often disagreed. I hope he is doing well.

But most of all, thank you for spelling my name correctly.

For anon 1/26 - 3:14, Rick and Cato, thank you for your support. It is the comments of you, and others of like kind, who make Mary's blog worthwhile.

Uncle Dennis said...

OK Fella's lets get back to the discussion of the ugliness of the big boxes and the blight they always leave.

Actually, I want to stray a bit. The First Citizens Bank located on the corner of West Fourth and South Tryon is a beautifully ornate design that reminds one more of a SAKS Fifth Avenue store than a bank. Windows along both streets stand out to display what is inside.

Unfortunately, what is inside are bankers desks, sometimes the back of computer terminals, complete with wires, etc. I can't walk past there without imagining how wonderful to see fashion mannikens in those windows.

Now that would then be a beautiful building!

UD

Cato said...

UD,

Your observation may be accurate from an aesthetic point of view, but there are economic considerations that will almost certainly override those.

First Citizens either owns or leases that space. In order to for them to move their most visible uptown location and replace it with retail, they'd have to be able to justify it through the rents that would be generated from the leasing the space (if they're owners) sub-leasing it (if they're tenants and their lease allows). Since neither has happened (and clothing shops haven't done well on Tryon for at least the past few years), it's reasonable to assume that they're better off using the space to generate foot traffic for their banking operations.

This, of course, is subject to change as more people live uptown. But I'd speculate that it will be several years before a large streetside space will be viable as a department store when compared with the income generated from an office or restaurant.

Maybe they could split the difference by hiring attractive, fashion-conscious people to sit behind those desks. And have them sit really still.

Anonymous said...

It is actually rather amusing to see discussion about aestetics in the design of commercial buildings. It is also amusing to discuss empty big boxes.

In order to discuss either one you must accept the fact it is only opinions. To change the nature of things you would have to change the relationship of social society to the economic society.

As we function primarily as a capitalistic based economy one cannot expect the function of retailers to be based on outside appearances of buildings if that doesn't improve the bottom line.

Neither can one expect them to stay occupied when the demographics of the surrounding clientele changes, and the box is no longer profitable.

Enter then the government which will then require certain amenities which are favored by a minority, but which will cost the economic unit some amount of money. The cost will either be absorbed by the company being passed on to the consumer, or the company will ask for direct government subsidies, or will not build.

Zoning is one such method.

For UD to wish for mannikens in the windows of what is now a bank, I can only agree if he is referring to the Victoria's Secret anatomically correct ones.

Anonymous said...

Maybe someone should mention that Ikea furnishes a lot of the "New Urban" apartments and condos that this blog loves.

Anonymous said...

Maybe someone should mention UD was on the front of the Observer today (29 Jan) pic and all.

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