Friday, February 02, 2007

Help for East Charlotte?

So much to say, so little time. So here are two quick hits, then news about an opportunity for East Charlotte’s international corridor, Central Avenue.

Ask and ye shall receive? Saw today that Duke Power will help pay to bury some power lines in Greenville, S.C. Why not Charlotte? Apparently Greenville asked and Charlotte didn’t. After a major 2005 ice storm, Greenville and Duke negotiated for a year. Note this line in the story: Duke Energy Carolinas President Ellen Ruff says Greenville and Durham were the only cities in Duke’s service area to push for overhead lines to be relocated. So now Duke’s starting a “pilot project” on cost-sharing with municipalities – but only in S.C.

Argh! Charlotte (and the rest of North Carolina) had a horrific ice storm in December 2002 that knocked out power for a week or more. During Hurricane Hugo in 1989 almost the whole city lost power, many for two weeks or more (including our house). After the 2002 ice storm the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Planning Commission and City Council made a few noises about pushing Duke to bury power lines here. But what got buried was the idea, not the power lines.

More design discussions: Architect Manoj Kesavan says the new point8 online magazine is up and running. Its editorial team is made up of artists, designers, writers and enthusiasts. But, it says, “We believe that what you have to say is far more important than who you are.” The goal: “To promote creativity, critique and communication.”

East Charlotte: Local architects hope to work with Central Avenue’s international corridor to help business owners, property owners, residents and the larger community to “address the urban fabric and architectural issues that hinder the area’s development.” They want to help figure out how to make the area more walkable, more economically vibrant and help build an identifiable image.

(My quick two cents: Change the zoning ordinances that apply. The standard business zoning that much of the street carries allows, even requires, auto-oriented design. And you’re shocked when it gets built?)

The Charlotte chapter of the American Institute of Architects plans to spend the first quarter of 2007 studying the area, and meeting with residents, businesses and other interested groups. In late April, San Diego urban planner Teddy Cruz would facilitate a workshop on the area.

To hear more about ideas for the project, come to the Civic by Design forum 5:30-6:30 p.m. Tuesday, Feb. 13, at the Levine Museum of the New South uptown.

27 comments:

Anonymous said...

One thought for Central Ave. Aside from burying power lines, which would be fantastic, i always thought a portion of the corridor should really display the different cultures and countries represented by the folks who live there. It would be great if a section of Central Ave could disply flags along light poles, etc. of the different countires representing the great diversity of people who live there. This, along with improved landscaping and the aforementioned buried power lines, could really create a sense of place and identitiy, as well as pride. It would reflect all the people of the area and make it a unique boulevard to travel in Charlotte. Those who have been to Philadelphia may have seen this done on the boulevard leading to the art museum. Of course that is more large scale and has all the countries of the world, but it is still a great sight to see them all affixed to the street lights lining the avenue. I think it could be just as effective on a small scale along Central Ave. and i think it would be a really unique feature that also helps build community character. If you want to promote the diversity of the area, i think it would be a great way to do so that would also create a nice aesthetic feature and help establish a boulevard feel for the corridor.

Anonymous said...

I think they already have a ton of flags in that area. Of course most of them are found on the rear view mirrors of most of the "ethnic" individuals in the area. Or on the rear windshields. I think the city should just hook up speakers to the light poles and play music that the people in the area play so loudly with their windows down. I think that would show some great culture to hear latin, and hip-hop and latin music all the time. I for one would feel much safer walking in that area.

Anonymous said...

I've walked down the corridor between Sharon Amity and Briar Creek numerous times and I'm always taken aback by the multi-cultural feel of the corridor. I think this corridor has the potential to become a bright and shining section of Charlotte in comparison to the almost homogeneous nature of Uptown. Please do not misconstrue my comments as Uptown bashing, as I'm also heartened by the way Uptown has grown just in the 8 years I've lived in Charlotte.

But talk about an area that has the potential to be a showpiece and the next big thing in Charlotte, it's definitely the East side. I hope this project takes off really soon!

Anonymous said...

The key to Central Avenue is Eastland Mall. They need to incorporate this into their plan, maybe make Eastland into an "International Mall"

Anonymous said...

I didn't know that the American Institute of Architects owned Eastland Mall?

Man you are right, that would be a really good idea to turn it into an international mall if they owned it. If not, I'm sure they can get govco to buy it for them and their pet project.

Will there be gun shops for the internationalists who regularly shoot at people there to re-arm?

http://www.wcnc.com/news/local/
stories/112905-ad-wcnc-
eastland.21002cf9.html

See last paragraph.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com
/id/16348842/

http://www.securityinfowatch.com/
article/article.jsp?
id=6604&siteSection=305

Anonymous said...

It's ridiculous how many power lines are still above ground, even in the heart of Uptown. These things should have been buried decades ago, for numerous reasons. They're unsafe, unsightly and easily damaged above ground.

Eastland Mall needs to be demolished and replaced with something akin to the Metropolitan project on Kings Ave. It's at the point of bringing its area down, rather than enhancing it. Put it on the "dead malls" list and replace it with something that will provide decent, safe shopping options to the good people on the east side.

Cato said...

I agree that East Charlotte could use an economic boost. But lecturing the residents there about the joys of walkability without first allocating police resources to make the streets safe is a fluffy-headed cruelty worthy of Tom Wolfe.

Anonymous said...

Hey Rick,

I'm pretty sure the owners of Eastland will eventually make a decision on what to do with the mall that many of us will appreciate. That doesn't mean we can't put our ideas and suggestions out there. Instead of using every forum as a platform to twist your into anti-government, anti-nonwhite, anti-metropolitan rants, you can bring a more positive idea to the table. Surely you have one decent idea.

I for one, believe that Eastland can be transformed into a viable town center for the Eastside. It won't be Southpark or Carolina Place per se, but something that would make the communities around it from black to international to the gentrified crowd proud. And yes, one with more police protection. What do you say?

Anonymous said...

Last Anon,

I know the truth must hurt when it conflicts with your pie in the sky dreaming. But my opposition to just about everything on this site has nothing to do with being anti-government, anti-metropolitan, or anti-non-white. (However, I do want to acknowledge your vain attempt to shut me up by throwing out the racism boogeyman - typical liberal garbage that won't work on me. You may not consider yourself liberal, but that is strait out of their play book.) My opposition to most ideas posted on this forum is that much of it supports unrealistic, misguided, misuses of government authority and money. Very often, this results in taking more money from the productive portions of society, those who actually pay the vast majority of the taxes, and flushing it down some black hole that does nothing but require more money down the line without ever solving any problem - real or perceived.

Turning Eastland Mall into some sort of international center is one of those ideas.

I have a perfect use for Eastland Mall - two uses in fact. Uses that will actually be productive. Uses that will support what the government is supposed to do. (I know you haven’t said the government would pay for it – yet. If you can promise me that nobody will even ask for government subsidies for this, then I’ll shut up now. )

Try these on for size…

Turn it into a school - a very large school - one that could have elementary through high school all on the same site. Kids could get to know teachers from Kindergarten on for the next 12 years. One kitchen facility to serve all of them, saving money. One gym or auditorium facility for all of them, saving more money. No stadium, saving the most money. Since its in the international corridor of the city, make most of the ESL facilities for CMS located there

That would actually solve a problem - a real problem - school crowding.

It would also create a real sense of community between families, students, and teachers as these kids would be at that school for many years, rather just a few.

How about this idea...to solve another real problem - not an imaginary one.

Turn it into a jail.

One of the main reasons for Charlotte's rising crime rate is that our criminal justice system lets people out simply due to a lack of space. The public defenders know this, the police know this, the DAs know this, and the judges know this. Our criminals are smarter than our politicians in this town. They know they can get away with crimes because the politicians don’t have the spine to put them in jail.

Make it a minimum security facility for DUIs, immigration violations, and petty crimes. The real jail would be reserved for the armed robbers, rapists, and murderers plaguing our city who are being let out.

Now, I know that you will say something like, these ideas can't be done because of a) zoning b) building codes c) security or my personal favorite d)"it's not the city's responsibility." (As if building cultural sites, arenas, and halls of fame are government responsibilities.)

I solve real problems, not imaginary ones.

Feel free to keep the ideas coming I never said you couldn't or shouldn't, but when you start spending other people's money on bad ideas, I'm going to try to squash them like a bug. Like cockroaches, bad ideas multiply in darkness and then overrun your house when you aren't looking.

Unknown said...

As a resident of the East side, I am grateful for for the analysis by the local Institute of Architects. Hopefully their comments will carry some weight. Local residents can't get city council attention. We don't have a powerful lobby like the Charlotte Center City Partners (and their sponsors, the banks)working for us.

The suggestion that was made to make Eastland Mall an International Mall is a great idea. The mall is in a good facility and needs its own unique idenity to compete with the other mega malls in the area. One attractive feature is the ice skating rink.

Yes Mary, you are correct. If Greenville can get Duke to bury the lines, why can't Charlotte? We need to push for them as well.

Yes East Charlotte needs all the help that the communtiy is willing to give us. I tip my hat to the Charlotte Chapter of the American Institute of Architects! Thanks.

GreenInNC said...

The eastside needs help, all you have to do is drive down Independence and see that and this study by the AIA is a step in the right direction. I grew up in this area and it has been depressing to watch it fall on hard times over the years. Our roads look like trash dumps, they are full of potholes and are falling apart (take a drive out Lawyers Rd.). There has been a water leak on Idlewild Rd. for at least three days and no one seems to be in a hurry to fix, even though we are having some of the coldest weather right now.

Why is this town so hell bent to prove it's downtown is "world class" when it is falling apart on the fringes?

Anonymous said...

Electric Lines pose a HEALTH rish as studies are now suggesting; Many reports are leading to serious health problems such as mixed thought process when around high power voltage; We all have to have electric but the lines near people should have been buried long ago; In England studies have shown People halucinating near high tension lines and getting eratic brain behavior. Many People see things more often such as UFOs near Power lines , why ,they dont really know for a fact but, Many more UFOS are spotted near high tension lines than anywhere else reported. High Power transformers can ARC their electric as close as four feet so thats how powerful electric really is.

Anonymous said...

The should have buried electric lines around Huntersville/ Birkdale and Ballantyne for sure; Not only it coulf be a hazard but asthetics or the view; I was walking down Ballantyne one day on a clear Blue sky day and I looked up to see Power lines across the most beautiful land ; Its a shame really . We can learn in the future if there is a nice scenic area for development the masters should think about under grounding the lines

Uncle Dennis said...

Rick,

Cudo's to your make Eastland Mall a school. I have often thought that the end use for Big Boxes should be educational, not perfect buildings, but usually near population centers, and plenty of parking!

I think it is a great idea.

UD

Anonymous said...

Hey, and how about designating the blocks between Thomas Avenue and Pecan Street between Central Avenue and Independence Boulevard as an International Trade Zone?

My old Midwood Elementary School patrol post was at the corner of Commonwealth and The Plaza, and ever since those dreamy days of the 1950s, folks have been sampling the international delights, attractions and appeal of black-eyed peas and cornbread around the corner, Debussy and Chopin piano sheet music around the bend and the far-reaching global banking networks of branches of what we grew up knowing as First Union and NCNB!

Cato said...

The more I think about it, the more the illegal immigration issue seems unavoidable as it relates to urban & suburban development, and to a place like East Charlotte.

The current immigration situation contributes to (subsidizes, really) the suburban lifestyle that Ms. Newsom objects to in several ways, often at the expense of middle-ring communities like East Charlotte.

1) It provides an inexhaustable source of cheap labor, making McMansions more affordable. If the labor supply were restricted in keeping with the laws on the books, and wages were higher for carpenters and other construction laborers, then such houses wouldn't be as common. In turn, developers would need to build more units per acre, increasing density, the holy grail of urban-type development.

2) Because the tax reporting of most illegal immigrants is, shall we say, irregular, this forces municipalities to raise taxes on the rest of us to cover the costs of their being here. All of a sudden, that cookie-cutter subdivision over the county line just got a lot more attractive.

3) While it's a sensitive and unpleasant fact, Charlotte's large influx of hispanic immigrants has probably increased white and bright flight, especially for the parents of school-age children who can't afford private schools.

So, here's where our immigration policy gets us: outlying counties are made more attractive and affordable, and thus take most of the middle class (how many truly "middle class" people over, say 30, do you know who live in the city? I can't say I know many). Areas like East Charlotte, which was never a trendy hot-spot, just a series of tidy, livable neighborhoods, get stretched municipal services, rampant home foreclosures, declining property values and all that goes with it, and everyone else in the city gets stuck with the bill.

Anonymous said...

I live in East Charlotte in the Oakhurst community off of Monroe Rd. Central Ave is not the only street that needs help. Monroe has become a disconnected (and frankly, ugly) street. I would support and heartily participate in a study that helps revive this street as well.

Though not the "international corridor" that Central is, Monroe Rd is still home to many businesses. Monroe Rd could be the benefactor of a pedscape plan and possibly overlay zoning that would encourage connectivity and pedestrian-friendly redevelopment. I, for one, would gladly walk anywhere I could if it was safe. Unfortunately, sidewalks built directly against a 45 mph 4 lane road is not conducive to pedestrians.

I understand that many use the road as a commuting corridor, but it is important for commuters to remember the people that live in the neighborhoods they drive through.

Anonymous said...

I sure hope the xenophobia and insensitivity displayed by some of the respondents to this thread is not representative of Charlotte as a whole. Or we really are in trouble.

Anonymous said...

Better hurry up with those ideas for Eastland Mall. The Limited has just closed all of its doors.

"The Limited Brands has closed all five of its stores -- Limited, Express, Express For Men, Bath & Body Works and Victoria's Secret -- in Eastland Mall."

www.charlotte.com/mld/
charlotte/business/16644915.htm

Reggie said...

One of the things that makes the East Side appealing is the character that diversity has given it. You can't design in true character, it develops. As it slowly revitalizes thru folks moving in and taking root in the community, the trash will eventually leave. Who would have ever thought where the house I grew up in Chantilly would ever go on the market for almost $500k? As interest in the East Side develops, housing prices will go up and those who do the crime will sell out and leave. Eastland Mall is doomed as it is today. It's going to take companies willing to take a chance to move in and take over for it to turn around. I'm proud to live on the East Side and will stay as long as I can survive my neighbors lousey barking dog.

Anonymous said...

I really think a lot of the ideas are really great for the Eastland Mall/Eastside revitalization! An International area, true true. 20+ years ago, the Eastside was a wonderful place to live. Relocating from the north, with small children, the McDonald's on the corner of Albermarle and Farm Pond was a local hang-out for all nationalities. So here is my input - 1. The city must be committed to help protect the citizens, property and well-being of the citizens of this area. With Eastland mall closing, the citizens are being forced to take their monies to the surburbs. The Eastland area is in an area that is not protected by its' city officials. Prayerfully the beefing up of the police with provide deterence and we East citizens will not have to spend the $'s earned in the other growing area's. Bad, Bad. Stop spending over there, keep your money at home. 2- the citizens of the Eastside must fight back. You must attend the county and city meetings. Don't you pay taxes? Aren't they rather high in your area? Did you ever take a look at the increase in your insurance rates? Ask for a quote in area codes 28215, 28212, 28227 and others right around the Independence Blvd/Albermarle Road area. Yep time to establish some community task forces - supported by the city, county and large business in the city of Charlotte. Not just the East side. 3. Talk about schools, education, police....what about all the vacate land on Indendependence Blvd - starting at the old Ovens Coliseum. Schools, all types of facilities can be erected and will served and provide a great purpose on both sides all the way to Harris Blvd. How about some "Charlote' police stations on Independence Blvd, help solve the overcrowing temporarily in the downtown jail - and make the inmates keep that section of the area clean. Create "real" rehab schools, not the kind that "create" real criminals out of mischevious young adults. Mandatory educatin and training for getting in trouble. Community service - isn't that a legal sentence - well have them perform community service. You committ a crime on the East side, you perform community service - guess where? ON THE EAST SIDE...... Why not some Trade Schools.? How about inviting some some of the virtual campus schools to the area. Education, Training, and community involvement is crucial to any community and its ablity to thrive. 4. Let's get some of that government money back into Charlotte. Largest banking center on the East Coast, and you have this kind of problem, what less than 20 miles from downtown. - I don't think so... Incentives for government and civil workers to buy and live in the area. It takes a community to raise a child, all of them - race not an issue. Charlotte has grown on the income, taxes, popularity, engagement of businesses moving here. Take a look back, a lot of it started on the East Side!!!!! I would love to open a business on that side of town, if I had the support of this great city of Charlotte behind me. I want to work here, eat here, purchase here and be safe here. Hey Lowes, Hey Home Depot....what's up!!!!!....SuperWalmart.....step-up....Not everybody wants to drive out of town for the best deals....Do you know that most metro cities have the RICH folks living on the EAST SIDE....

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